Ep 15: Wrestling with Boff with Zach Demiele

Let’s get ecclesial! Dean’s still gone, so Matt’s friend Zach Demiele, a grad from Duke University, sits in to talk about Catholic liberation theologian Leonardo Boff’s book Ecclesiogenesis.


  • While the Catholic’s away, two Protestants…talk about…Catholic theology.
  • What’s the deal with hierarchy and church organization?
  • Dwayne “The Rock” Johnson and the apostolate of wrestling.
  • The spectre of Dean haunts hesitant hierarchy hot-takes.
  • Who gets to eat Jesus?
  • How does the Church mediate and also oppress the people?
  • Base communities!
  • Matt opens up about his sexton past.
  • Whose got the most special communion?

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